137 Ventures Justin Fishner-Wolfson on why ownership is an overvalued heuristic, building lasting teams, and the current state of secondary markets.

  
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Follow me @samirkaji for my thoughts on the venture market, with a focus on the continued evolution of the VC landscape.

Today we’re thrilled to bring you my conversation with Justin Fishner-Wolfson, co-founder and managing partner of 137 Ventures, a growth-stage venture firm that provides customized liquidity solutions to founders, investors, and early employees of high-growth private technology companies.

With a total AUM of $1.5B, 137 Ventures has backed some of the most impactful companies of the past decade, including Wish, Flexport, SpaceX, Uber, and Airbnb. 

Prior to launching 137 ventures in 2010, Justin worked on the investment team at Founders Fund.


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In this episode we discuss:

02:10 Justin’s journey into venture capital

03:36 Learnings from Founders Fund

05:52 Differentiating yourself in tangible ways

07:45 How Justin thinks about the sales process

10:34 Fund sizing

14:59 Liquidity solutions for the future

17:42 How efficient are the secondary markets right now?

20:40 Justin’s philosophy on risk

26:00 The considerations of check size and ownership requirements

28:53 What are the toughest things to get right in building a firm?

31:01 Avoiding talent atrophy and ensuring generational succession

32:56 The hardest lesson learned in building a firm

39:47 The most counterintuitive lesson Justin learned in investing

42:19 Learnings from misses

43:47 Justin’s inspirations

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I’d love to know what you took away from this conversation with Justin. Follow me @SamirKaji and give me your insights and questions with the hashtag #ventureunlocked. If you’d like to be considered as a guest or have someone you’d like to hear from (GP or LP), drop me a direct message on Twitter.

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